is not allowed the same thing. What a different story this would be if four had died instead of three.What a different story this would have been if two had died instead of three! Didn't someone, somewhere point out that she could have set the fire before she left the house? Perhaps you have a reason to worry he might be innocent you sure act it . Saving one's own skin rather than one's children is cowardly, but it doesn't in the least stack up to be considered depraved indifference.As I understand it, gross negligence amounting to depraved indifference requires that there is a legally bound duty of care in that scenario, one that binds even over their own safety. Many of the victims family members said that Muhammads death doesnt change anything and it doesnt bring family members back.Muhammad died by lethal injection Tuesday night while his victims survivors watched through a one way mirrored window. And she's doing it many years later when she has presumably had time to heal emotionally and "see the truth" as it were.It's interesting she is allowed this latitude as a battered wife and grieving mother but Todd, who has just been confronted by the mother of his babies and essentially asked "what the hell are you doing alive?" Fine. But just this once, I would tend to believe that truth is stranger than fiction and just maybe, people like my neighbor who see conspiracies around every corner are occasionally right on target. Reasonable doubt has been established and Willingham's legacy may be changes in the standards for investigating arson. As more people gathered and the police and FD arrived, then he was the grieving father. There is something wrong with y'all. It doesn't matter that he beat his wife, it doesn't matter if he was a particularly repugnant human being, that he liked hard rock and Satanic themed posters, that his wife hated him because he lived and the children died, it doesn't matter if he didn't manage to get his children out of the house before it burned. Each request was denied. Stacy Kuykendall said she believed for over a decade her husband, Cameron Todd Willingham, didn't deliberately start the house fire that killed their three daughters. Yeah, I get it so cut the crap long enough to see who agrees with you and who doesn't. David Kuykendall, Sr., age 75, of Hueytown, Alabama, passed away March 23, 2022. There are just no two ways about it. We are sad to announce that on October 16, 2022, at the age of 78, Gary Lynn Kuykendall in Charleston, Arkansas passed away. He sounds not only like the village idiot, but to do a bit of paraphrasing, The man doth protest too much, methinks. in that he is incapable of accepting that over the years the science of arson investigations has changed and that he may have been wrong.No lawyer with both honor and dignity would ever present themselves in such a manner. Dr. Beyler concluded that a finding of arson cannot be sustained. So two weeks before his execution Willingham's brainstorm to save his ass was to confess to the mother of the three babies he murdered, after having 13 years to think about it, in the hope this would convince her to write a letter asking for clemency?Really?Yeah, really. We can't know for sure if Willingham intentionally killed his children; but we do know that the forensic evidence in this case, properly interpreted, isn't strong enough to uphold a conviction.Alan Bean. Florida doctors are the worst in the nation.I used to be against the death penalty until I started looking at and thinking about the victim and I stopped worrying about mad-dog killers who deserve execution and nothing less. And what gives them the right to refuse to call it murder and persecute people who in good conscience oppose it.I used to be against the cold-blooded murder of unborn babies up to the 3rd monthuntil I found out they do it up to 9 months, even minutes before birth for ANY reason. The Daily Corsican reported the following: The Innocence Project is an absolute farce, Martin said. How about releasing the arson report because science doesn't lie? That is strange coming from people who actually live here. The only reason Goodhair would be respected for a cover up is if he could spin it to show that lying about it would save the state monetary losses. If you consider that his confession and he didn't set the fire, he may have been a lousy human being for not attempting to save the children. If in fact that is the case. Why can't the explanation for his inconsistent statements in the hours after his children's death be that he was suffering intense grief and acute survivor's guilt? Just because you claim to not know how you would act doesn't mean that others of us don't.You don't, unless you've been in a fire -- and I mean a real fire, not an exploding barbecue or a smoldering sofa you put out with the fire extinguisher. She was never charged in this attempted 1st-degree murder. I will write more if I have time later.Chris. Maybe it's paranoia, maybe it's really something in the water, or maybe I'm just allergic to the whole state, but I'm more comfortable vacationing in third world countries during political unrest, the odd tourist joint during catastrophic natural disasters and found New Orleans in the early days following Katrina relaxing compared to my average visit to just about anywhere in Texas. However, if Mr. Martin and Mr. Willingham discussed the pseudo-scientific test that Mr. Martin and his fellow attorney performed (which I find plausible), then Mr. Martin would be on very thin ice with respect to this privilege, absent a very good reason. As a mother of 6 kids, how can murdering a baby before birth be a right? Another said he had been restrained from re-entering the building to go after his children. Mr. Martin disclosed a work product (the burn experiment), which he should not have done. Not for liking hard rock. I am a housefire survivor myself. No, I don't think Willingham was guilty and I hope the hell that his legacy is to bring change. That is not a violation of privilege. To the Anonymous poster(s),You were the one to bring up attorney client privilege, falsely implying that it does not survive death (10:19:00 AM). They said he moved his car away to prevent it being scorched but made no effort to save the girls. Co opting and the very real grief of a victm to silence other voices and political gain is rephensible and as immoral as those thease "Tough on Crime " ilk condemn so loudly . So what? The guilty sometimes get away with murder. The cognitive dissonance would drive anyone crazy.The final death-row conversation is truly ambiguous. Then we have a statement from Stacy's brother saying that she told him that Willingham confessed. The women loved my brother. Willingham escaped the blaze with minor injuries. Another correction:Paragraph 6, I said "I see the same pattern in his case as I see in her caselack of remorse, continuously changing their stories, continuously lying and telling fantastic stories that are clearly true. He was born on May 30, 1964, in Sikeston, Missouri, to the late Carmen and Ethel Cates Kuykendall. So there. It still hurts terribly when I think about James aka "Hambone". I think David Grann's discussion of Stacy Kuykendall's statement is fair and insightful: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2009/10/stacy-kuykendall-statement.html. Then I became AGAINST murderbefore birth and after birth. "I meant to say "I see the same pattern in his case as I see in her caselack of remorse, continuously changing their stories, continuously lying and telling fantastic stories that are clearly NOT true.". Here is a woman who lost three grandchildren, then saw her son executed partly on the basis of forensic arguments that some of the most well respected names in the field have totally dismantled. My sister still has it. Annonymous Cyber bully thinks that by insulting , name callng and making fun of typos he will be right . You really don't seem like a calm person. It's not like he's going to get a new trial. "I meant: "Anti-death penalty people do not even think for 1 second about the murder victims and their survivors because all they care about is the mad-dog killer. Stacy Kuykendall read a prepared statement to reporters outside the Travis County courthouse. How can I do a better job?" "Anderson Cooper's advocacy journalism is clear from the start of that video. Whatever shreds of credibility Beyler has left only remain because, contrary to claims of the activists, the Beyler report does not exclude arson as the cause of the blaze, nor does it identify an alternate cause. He is Either Dudley Crawford Sharp III or one of his JFA Neo Nazis fanatics . On a side note to Anon 11:15, that particular bit of nonsense isn't going to cut it. This thread was about the reliability of the grieving mother's statements and the remorseless insensitivity of Mr. Grits and the rest of you Monday Morning Quarterbacks who brand her a liar because you don't like what she says. Her statement makes it pretty clear that she was initially trying to cover for him and to the extent that it contains a confession it is a tacit confession at best.You are responsible for recklessly stirring up the pain for this woman by pursuing the bogus innocence claims but rather than owe up to your misdeeds you decide to smear the victim. What motive would Stacy have to lie about something like this after all this time. I am not even considering any evidence about arson. But if she's going to put herself out there and espouse positions that contradict her previous claims, including ones made under oath, IMO it's impossible to consider her statements without openly discussing that "dissonance," as you put it. Anon. You are not. Warren Jeffs. Stacy could have a million motives for lying about the confession. O W Kuykendall. It sounds more like you were in firefighting school at College Station. The state presented ostensibly credible evidence in all the DNA exoneration cases as well. Things that make you go HMMM . If you wish to have a legal system that works with gossip, assumptions and the prejudices of the local yahoos, congratulations. The question still stands, did he deliberately light that fire? Supporting the blue is what matters. As the New Yorker's David Grann pointed out, her recent statement: directly contradicts numerous previous . Mr. Martin went beyond trying to defend himself to attacking his client, and a reasonable person would question how effective his defense was. Can you provide a link that shows that Mr. Willingham waived this privilege? That is simply offensive and out of line . Wagoner. "Also, I could have posted as "Anonymous" but chose to use my actual name. SB,You might be thinking of the anonymous poster who was sparring with me. But this ain't it! Something they thought terribly funny. There was the appearance of a solid case. This case concerns investigative actions which have serious flaws and need desperately to be review for current best practices. Doctors tried to revive her before pronouncing her dead. Hell, he wouldn't know the truth if it slapped him in the face. The stories go on and on and in the end, the only thing that matters is did he or did he not deliberately set that fire? Another scumbag murderer got away with murder.Katy Hall got away with the murder because her family had lots of local clout and money and had connections with the local law enforcement. Let's look at the views of 10 families whose loved ones were taken.Many of the victims families expected closure after last nights execution of John Allen Muhammad, the DC Sniper who killed 10 people over a three week period in 2002. Join Facebook to connect with Stacy Kuykendall and others you may know. The ex-wife of the Texas man executed for setting fire to their home and killing their three daughters tearfully reiterated her contention Wednesday that he confessed his guilt to her. The reason he didn't save Amber is obvious; he wanted her to die. Haven't we covered this subject already? Any "cover up" by Goodhair is like the smirking denial of a delinquent who is boasting about his guilt out of one side of his mouth and shining with pride over his offense, while issuing a token denial to the authorities to avoid punishment. We're not calling [Stacy] Kuykendall a liar,", statement to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, immediately after that last death-row visit. Correct me if I'm wrong here. Wake up and take responsibility for yourselves. "we do know that the forensic evidence in this case, properly interpreted, isn't strong enough to uphold a conviction.We don't know that because the evidence hasn't been properly re-interpreted. It sounds like you have a dog in this fight. I don't care. "That seems quite a leap to deem that negligence amounting to depraved indifference, at least as I understand the term. Is that it? What the evidence was then, irrespective of it's form, should be weighed into account with new advancements in technology to determine once and forever if Willingham was a guilty person.If innocent, place a moratorium on the death penalty until we have better conclusive evidence in these matters. They've got plenty of those on Polunsky:). Did he deliberately cause his children to die? I put the wrong link to the story above but can find the correct one.It is a good link with a victim's family calling for anger to be turned around and used in a positive way.We have a system you do not trust but you give them your blessing to carry out executions of your choice.Todd Willingham was a young man. She married that piece of garbage and had not one but three babies with him. He has defended his work - which he has the right to do. Tx has made many mistakes on death row inmates and sentencing was done in the usual way. She was never charged in this 1st-degree murder either.Then, I was told, she went to a northern state and committed another 1st-degree murder, but, as she was in a different state, she was tried and convicted of 2nd-degree murder and sentenced to 25 years-to-life in prisonso I am told.Her name is Katy Hall, aka Jeri Kay Hall. He said that he yelled at her and then exited the house, leaving Amber and the twin infants inside to die.A confession to what? It is unlikely that he set a fire and then decided to take a nap. Please find full obituary and celebration information at grandprairiefh.com, recent obituaries. Katy Hall, the murderer of my brother James on Sept. 15, 1991 in Hendry County, Floridahad stabbed one guy but he survived. He was born on April 13, 1934 to William and Vealie Kuykendall in Gumwood Township. Anonymous cyber bully If a person no matter who they are makes drastically conflicting statements to the media they can most certainly expect to be questioned about it a . Mr. Willinghams first appeal did not even raise the question of ineffective counsel, so the fact that it was not found in this instance is strictly meaningless. We have an interview with the original arson investigator who sounds like he regards any advancements in the science since 1970 as witchcraft. By his own words he intentionally left Amber to die. Lets see if there is a recoreded confession .Of course there is not one .
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